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While there are definitely beneficial ways to use such a feature, many people have apparently been quite traumatized by its abusive uses on Twitter (where it was, of course, known as "quote tweet[ing]").
 
While there are definitely beneficial ways to use such a feature, many people have apparently been quite traumatized by its abusive uses on Twitter (where it was, of course, known as "quote tweet[ing]").
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==Abuse Cases==
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Many people have cited the use of this feature on Twitter for harassing and starting dogpiles.
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==Need Cases==
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* to add commentary
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* to add hashtags
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* to add a CW (content warning)
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* to put the post in a local context (this need might be better addressed by other means, but for the record)
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** '''2022-12-22''' [https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/discussions/22657 Web interface: Please localize all links. Clicking a link sometimes goes to another instance. #22657] (issue ticket on Mastodon repo)
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** '''2022-12-22''' [https://social.vivaldi.net/@Patricia/109557071541332333 social.vivaldi.net/@Patricia] {{fmt/quote|When people follow a link to a post they end up on the server of the poster, but that has a generic “Mastodon” header that says they have to log in. So they think that is “log into ✨Mastodon✨” like it would for most of their other services. And when that fails (because they’re not on that server) then they ✨create new accounts✨.}}
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Note that different users have different followerships with different preferences and filtering needs; a post which may have been absolutely fine in one context might really need a CW (for content many followers might want to skip or only view under some circumstances) or hashtags (for filtering, as well as the more obvious use of making the post more findable).
 
==Discussion==
 
==Discussion==
 
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===negative/dislike===
 
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* '''2022-12-19''' [https://indieweb.social/@whalecoiner/109547186015349835 indieweb.social/@whalecoiner] {{fmt/quote|I cannot describe to you the anxiety that comes from people demanding the fucking Quote feature for Mastodon.}} (thread, discussion)
 
* '''2022-12-19''' [https://indieweb.social/@whalecoiner/109547186015349835 indieweb.social/@whalecoiner] {{fmt/quote|I cannot describe to you the anxiety that comes from people demanding the fucking Quote feature for Mastodon.}} (thread, discussion)
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===positive/want===
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* '''2022-12-21''' [https://fosstodon.org/@sehe/109554380574650275 fosstodon.org/@sehe] {{fmt/quote|about the ONLY thing that can NOT be conveniently shared on Mastodon is another Mastodon post. / Even embedding YT or Twitter links seems to work as expected. Why would toots be any different? It's effectively just Mastodon disadvantaging itself.}}
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* '''2022-11-16''' [https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/109355822005012040 hachyderm.io/@dalias] {{fmt/quote|OK, here it goes. Why quote-posting is a critical positive feature we need to get on this platform. [...]}} Enumerated thread.

Revision as of 14:28, 22 December 2022

About

A quote toot (quotoot or QT) is a toot (fediverse post) in which another toot is quoted, with additional commentary by the QTer.

Although this can be done manually in a number of ways (i.e. by simply replying or linking to the original post and then pasting part or all of its contents into the new toot, preferably with clear indications that they are quoting the referenced toot, most discussion of this concept centers around whether it would be desirable as a feature for fediverse client-interface software (mainly Mastodon).

While there are definitely beneficial ways to use such a feature, many people have apparently been quite traumatized by its abusive uses on Twitter (where it was, of course, known as "quote tweet[ing]").

Abuse Cases

Many people have cited the use of this feature on Twitter for harassing and starting dogpiles.

Need Cases

  • to add commentary
  • to add hashtags
  • to add a CW (content warning)
  • to put the post in a local context (this need might be better addressed by other means, but for the record)

Note that different users have different followerships with different preferences and filtering needs; a post which may have been absolutely fine in one context might really need a CW (for content many followers might want to skip or only view under some circumstances) or hashtags (for filtering, as well as the more obvious use of making the post more findable).

Discussion

neutral/discuss

  • 2022-12-18 toot.cat/@woozle «So, let's talk about #quoteToots (known presumably as #quoteTweets on that other place).» (discussion thread)

negative/dislike

  • 2022-12-19 indieweb.social/@whalecoiner «I cannot describe to you the anxiety that comes from people demanding the fucking Quote feature for Mastodon.» (thread, discussion)

positive/want

  • 2022-12-21 fosstodon.org/@sehe «about the ONLY thing that can NOT be conveniently shared on Mastodon is another Mastodon post. / Even embedding YT or Twitter links seems to work as expected. Why would toots be any different? It's effectively just Mastodon disadvantaging itself.»
  • 2022-11-16 hachyderm.io/@dalias «OK, here it goes. Why quote-posting is a critical positive feature we need to get on this platform. [...]» Enumerated thread.